28 following. Gods job is to do the miracles, our job is to believe. People are afraid of what they do not understand. Lets focus on the Love of Jesus and love love lovebe Jesus out thereChristine Cain, Joyce and all those you judge..they love the Lordperhaps u should look inward friend. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race. "If you had asked me, I would have told you that I had no time or margin to fit in a physical health battle. Its taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.', and 'Nothing about my birth - or yours - was random or accidental. So thats why it comes across as if you just want to brag Im SO right, and they are SO wrong! Show me how anonymously talking about people behind their backs is the Biblical way of correcting or confronting. springs without water, and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved (2 Pet. Listen in as Christine Caine opens up about her past and how God can use you no matter what's been done to you or what you've done to others. Its a Hollywood script! Personally, we see no reason at all for Priscillas name coming first in half of the Scripture references to her, even though she may recall the wonderful prominence of women in early Christianity, and in martyrdom and service for Christ., (MARIN) Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. Name one thing she teaches on that isnt according to scripture and is not accurate. I encourage you to respect that just as you throw away everything that comes out of the mouths of Caine, Meyer, et al, please respect those who are able to throw away what they disagree with while also taking in what they find to be Biblical. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church. This explains what is happening today as The Lords return grows closer: 2Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction. Kenyon (18671948) is usually given credit as the originator of Word of Faith teaching. till seven times? Thanks, Amy! He simply did not yet know the full apostolic message. You think God could never really do anything with your life. Spoke at Bethel Church, delivered there a false testimony and strongly unbiblical teachings. Do you know me to say such a thing? People who post here are haters and not lovers of Christ! He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony."-- Christine Caine . Your value can only come from Jesus. When mankind was childlike, before Christs presence in the world of Gods creation, we had the Old Testament and its teachings to guide us. By the way Marin, you still havent answered an iota on Christine Caines association with Hillsong, T.D. Lets crack open the Gospel of Luke and just read it again. So get people into the lifeboat. Who were you directing this to? Finding your way back to God when everything is pulling you away(Nelson). Not every purveyor of false teaching is a lackey of the Devil. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. I have not met Ms Caine in person to have a conversation with her, so I will not breach scripture and start publicly questioning her faith or berating her ministry without giving her a chance to answer any questions and concerns I may have. When we share our story through the lens of God's work in our lives, our experience becomes a testimony to who He is. "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. You said Ill call it straight to their face. My point is you HAVENT. I pray against the pride that is here. I pray those with ears to hear will find their way out. You know for someone who looks down on judging, you sure do a lot of it. Apology appreciated. A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. Catholicism (RCC) I am curious to know the biblical basis for those who are unmarried to not be able to minister? Paul has nothing remotely nice to say about those to purport to speak for Christ. "Of course the enemy wanted to silence my voice," said Caine. How is what you are doing here promoting the gospel of truth? Her work is a testimony of the . You can disagree with me, but I encourage you to remain teachable to whoever God puts in your pathit can be amazing what He can teach you through the most unlikely of sources. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Additionally, Christine has close relationships with Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer, frequently sharing the stage or partnering with both. God bless Christine Caine as well as Joyce Meyer and every Maria Magdalene out there! Priscilla also led her household in the making of disciples. Read out White Paper on the Word of Faith Movement, Christine Caine, Complementarianism, Elizabeth Prata, Heresy, Hillsong Church, Joyce Meyer, New Age Movement, Occult, Sin, spirituality, Word of Faith. Here is a Pastrix Caine sermon review. Let God judge, not these people who protest about these awesome people bringing tons of people to Christ. And to whom am I calling anything behind their back? Has the author of this article suddenly become God and we are unaware of it? 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Pharisees warned of Jesus too. . A word of advice to those erroneously holding unto these beliefs, read your Bibles, put down your favorite idol for a second and read what Jesus said about: False teachers, false brethren, faulty theology, and the biggest of them all the coming judgement on these purveyors of lies and on the whole world itself. 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. God is beyond amazing, yet Meyer and Caine trample His commandments. If you mean warning of wolves behind pulpits, yes.Its called warning. Put out your little warning marker if you need to when you find someone is acting falsely. Do I seem like this in my workplace, my family, on social media? Woman can be used and will be used by God wether some like it or not. Kenyons principal disciple was Kenneth Hagin Sr., the recognized father of the Word of Faith movement. There is an honesty about Christine Caine that is rare in high-profile leaders. Victoria Osteen shares how God can use your past to bring greatness to the Kingdom. And there is one thing you must remember about wolves which separates them from Christians. I was adopted as an infant and raised in a traditional Greek Orthodox home with traditional gender roles. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Christine Caine is a member-leader in a doctrinally heretical word-faith church. ~ Christine Caine. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church.. Did you know that Lydia and Priscilla are both listed BEFORE their husbands in the book of Acts because the writing style of the day indicated listing the LEADER of the household FIRST? It's breathtaking to see what God has done in our offices around the world. Watch on. Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters. She travels without her husband! Pluease! Thank you. Christine Caine engages in New Age practices condemned in the Bible, Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible, enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids. I am not sure how you expect abusedand sexually abused women to be taught who they are in Christ by men, either. This latter text is significant because of the parallel to 1 Corinthians 5. Joyce Meyer brought me closer to my walk with JESUS and my daughter is going into ministry to teach people about Jesus and HIS LOVE for his people! I know Im glad Manny and Amy dont have a heaven or hell to put people in, because it sounds like theyd throw Lydia and Priscilla in. I believe he is coming back. Is it winning people to Christ? You seem to have sincere concerns, so what does anonymously posting about them online do? I am WAY too busy aligning my own life with the scriptures to spend too much time pointing fingers at others. Life and death is in the power of the tongue.nothing wrong with positive prayers and claiming blessings over our children. When I was young, I cried out to God in my naivete and innocence, and in my desperation felt he wasn't stopping anything. Keep seeking the Lord and His truth will be found by you. And the whole -you are tearing down His Kingdom bit just love till it hurts ,just love , love, love,anything and everything cuz its all about love is pure and utter b.s. Saddlebacks Rick Warren appoints 3 women pastors, Fed up with false teaching: Calvary Chapel church says So Long to the CC Association, Brodersen splits from CCA; calls for new Global Network, Michael Brown Continues to Deny the NAR, Defends Montanism, Progressive Christians and their doctrines of devils, Apologist James White Draws Concerns After Holding, Defending Interfaith Dialogue at Church With Muslim Imam, My church practices the Sinners Prayer'. The authors name is listed at the top if you want to be able to properly address your concerns. I didn't start 25 years ago with a global ministry. So I grew up with a strong God-consciousness, but not a personal relationship with Christ. if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? I am sure Satan is loving the lack of unity and twisting of scripture this article represents. II John 9-11. (Marin) but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. Like back in SUFTT? I went from feeling as a nobody (given I am a single woman who lives in a different state from my father and brotherswe know what the traditional church thinks of women like me) to understanding that Christ saved me for a reason. When you are calling names, questioning the faith of, or making assumptions about a person, you ARE making it personal. So I grew up feeling a lot of rejection, shame, insecurity, fear, and anger. (Romans 16:17-18). At the time, she was set to take part in speaking engagements, go on a worship tour with Kari Job and release her new book, Unstoppable. So here I am! A follower of Jesus? In addition, Christine Caine endorses practice of pagan/witchcraft as seen here in Battersons Circle Making book blurb, 2. In point 6, it reads: If they persist despite the warnings and either dont have a husband to oversee them, have no proper oversight from a husband who has abdicated his duty, or who just are or are married to a discernment klutz, then various scriptures say either to admonish them strongly a third time and/or to break fellowship., Point six is given without a bible reference. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. The mum-of-two, who is now 50 years old, said it took 50 years to write Unashamed, because she has spent many years overcoming her shame and being confident in her own skin. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Women are not meant to be in these positions. Please show proof. Rising from the Ashes of Abuse: Christine Caine & Jennifer Clinger - Jesus Calling Podcast Episode 68. Where is that Biblical? Ive had non-Christians call out amazing observations about my character (both good and bad) and speak unbelievable truth into my life.I even grew to fall in love with the scripture through being challenged about the path to salvation by a cult member! Christine Caine: When you start being abused, you think what is happening to you is . How is a comment like Michaels supposed to attract a lost soul? But perhaps Christine Caines best known and most worrisome bond is with false (Word of Faith) teacher Joyce Meyer. So we can correct any mistakes before permanent post? There was this dark secret going on. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save?. I was honored when my former boss (who is male) told me that seeing the way I live my life inspired him to get back into his Bible and find a church for his family, as he had walked away from his faith after 12 frustrating years of Catholic school. They walked as one for they had mutually agreed to put Christ first. I am sad to think that you guys would call yourselves Christians when you dont act like it. http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/, Wow all I have to say is thank God he will be judging me & not you people All I see you doing here is turning people away from God spewing such hate, who are you to judge? Response to correction reveals whether you are dealing with a brother or with a wolf. We are supposed to be out there winning people to Christ the end time is near. Published on September 24, 2019. But instead you find a way to question our intellect and ANYTHING good someone else is learning, leaving us with nothing. Bob bless! Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. (Marin) Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed.. I also hope this person finds truth and happiness in God and in his word. Are we just being pugnacious? That's probably why I'm so intense, passionate, and serious about my faithbecause it wasn't a light decision. All thats done here is to warn people!E of false teachers, false theology and false biblical practices, how is that in anyway being Pharisee? We say things like: God will use the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, (1 Corinthians 1:27) and then when he does, we dont like it.My goal isnt to be a career Christian. Why cant you say hey, its great you are working on your evangelismhere are some better resources I recommend because of ___? I have heard Ms. Caine speak at two different womens conferences (It is my understanding that the Bible is ok with women teaching women), and her call for us (as women) to not be distracted by todays divisive, politically chaotic climate and to remain focused on winning souls for Christ spoke to my heart. I know I am using a generalized context, as some would argue that ministering is different then preaching or teaching. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Wow. Every time we put a trafficker in jail, I feel like Joseph in Genesis 50:20, who says to his brothers: You meant this for evil against me, but God meant it for this very purpose. The greatest thing I can do is bear much fruit. No doubt! Praise Jesus. So you never know. Youre theology is very weak to non-existent if you believe these women have actually brought anything good to the masses. For four months following the surgery, every minute of every day was excruciatingly painful. Eventually people who are following God will see that. Dominionism (NAR) Im an unwanted kid, second generation migrant, marginalised. Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. 3:8) You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers, by Denny Burk on April 8, 2014 in Christianity, Theology/Bible. Shun them, having nothing to do with them. Had I listened to the Pastor who told me Joyce Meyers ministry went against the word of God I may still be 300+pounds tens of thousands of dollars in debt and struggling to find my worth and value as a woman of God. People are too busy being judges more than preaching the Bible. Written by Christian Movies. We name names not because we have issues personally with the person, but the teaching which we are absolutely supposed to judge against scripture. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life. Or is there a more biblically formed motive for the controversy? Morning Devotions, 5 Things About Jesus That Matter to You Part 3 A Time With God Audio Devotion, ChatGPT and the Rise of Technology: Wisdom in Using AI, Love is the Greatest Political Idea, says Indian Author & Philosopher, 5 Things About Jesus That Matter to You Part 2 A Time With God Audio Devotion. The speaker began to define abuse as "something that endangers a child physically or psychologically through neglect or emotional, physical or sexual mistreatment.". As Christians, we need to compare the current, mainstream teachings to the Israelites of the minor prophet era they were mixing in unholy sacrifice and worship. We have examples in scripture where bona fide believers are the source of error in the church. . There was no big crisis of faith, she says, just a build-up of the pressures of life and the responsibilities that she carries. Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. There is some speculation regarding Lydias social status. Emma Fowle is assistant editor of Premier Christianity and editor of Voice of Hope, Premier's quarterly devotional magazine. I wanted to be open: drifting isnt always Im leaving Christianity, Im going to start doing sex, drugs, rock and roll Drifting can be as subtle as taking your foot off the gas, going: Its too costly to keep pressing on, Im just going to slow down a bit. We need to examine our hearts. Meyer teaches word of Faith heresies that are available for anyone to read. 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